Looking into 4wd MCD - Page 2

Roadrunner · 01-31-2010, 08:42 AM

Say,thanks for all the info.Iam trying to figure out how to but not having a whole lot of luck

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Originally Posted by zouz10

I don't believe that MCD called it EVO until the EVO2, but that doesn't matter.
If you are looking for parts and are in the states, go to http://innovativehobby.com/ they are great. If you have any questions, you can shoot them an e-mail and they will respond rather quickly.

The CC of the engine should be stamped on the head just below the cooling fins. You might have to take off the plastic shroud. Also, they will not write 30.5cc they will most likely say 29cc. It's still a 30.5cc but I don't know why they don't stamp it like that.
You will have either a CY or a Zenoah engine. O'neil does is make it perform better, such as porting etc... I have never owned one of their motors so I don't know if they engrave them or not, some companies do that. Check under the plastic shroud and there might be some markings there.

Hope this helps

Chris

zouz10 · 01-31-2010, 12:46 PM

No problemo, hope everything works out,

Chris

Roadrunner · 01-31-2010, 04:42 PM

So Chris nice to talk to somebody with some expierence..So from some of what i read in some of the forums,the front diff out of a evo3 will sit in the Diff housing for an original MCD Baja,,no modds necessary..Whats your take???

Trebor · 02-01-2010, 06:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Trebor

the older type diffs are not as strong as the latest evo 3 type

soooooo the latest diffs are what you need they will fit into the original

housings

and dont do to much jumping

check out these 2 links

http://www.kingcobra.co.uk/catalogue...logue_2007.pdf

http://www.mcdeurope.de/downloads/Sp...ts_2009_V2.pdf

you also need to update your location

did you not read this

Roadrunner · 02-02-2010, 02:24 PM

Yes,,i read it.The info is much appeiciated.When i click on the links it kicks me of the internet.Not a computer guy so dont know whats going on there..Dam i never realized how much parts were for a MCD baja 1000..So the front diff is ordered,along with the two brand new tires and rims..Gave the remote to my brother for about 2 minutes and he hit a stump..Never seen nothing like it,,,The front wheels busted,,thats right only the wheels..Nothing elese.Wowww

..Also Trebor??How do i update my location..Cant figure it out

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Originally Posted by Trebor

did you not read this

cryptonblade · 02-02-2010, 04:14 PM

at the top of the page u can see "USER CP"(under the yellow hummer)push it,
then push on "EDIT YOUR DETAILS"
scrol down and u can fill in your location and if u like a bit more......

Bigger the Better · 02-02-2010, 05:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Roadrunner

How do i update my location..Cant figure it out

http://www.largescaleforums.com/showthread.php?t=5865

gottaclone · 02-07-2010, 01:56 AM

Thanks Bajaraji for the info.I also have a HPI BAJA 5B for bashing and racing.

I am still going to look into MCD BAJA 1000.
There is a member that is giving me a great deal on his. Hopefully we can work it out and I will have it soon. I have been eyeing them for awhile and can not wait to add one to my collection.

My friend had a FG BAJA 4WD and MY HPI killed it where ever we would go.
On the road, BMx tracks, open fields it has no chance what so ever. Our motors are even close in size... so I am not a big fan of the FG BAJA. He now has a 5T with the same motor and it alot closer race.

Bigger the Better · 02-07-2010, 02:14 PM

The gearing on the HPI and FG are different. Have him gear different for speed.

There is no reason a 4wd should not beat a 2wd on a track unless you kick his butt on driving.

gottaclone · 02-07-2010, 06:40 PM

Yes, I do have some skills

when it comes to driving.

and more time on the suspension tune then any other part of it.

I take that into consideration...but when I drive his, I still have a time trying to get around him. The BAJA 5B is just to fast and light on any straights. It can get a good lead into the corners.. naturally the 4wd cars corner faster and that is where they catch up. Once out of the corner though it is a lost cause so to say, Even if they passed.

All these things are my reason to get a 4WD MCD. I do believe that with the proper gearing and driver that thing should "KILL" a 5b.

And the weight issue keeps comming up. With a little research found that the MCD BAJA 1000(not the ultimate) built properly will only weigh 2-3 pounds heavier then a loaded HPI 5T. This said a good 4.75 -5 hp motor and GEARING will rocket that large scale rc.

bajaraji · 02-07-2010, 09:44 PM

ok clone good luck. u may just tweek that thing eons better that i did for mine and come out with better performance then i did. waitin to hear from u on the completed project. hope it all goes well.
P.S. your buddy's fg baja must have malaria. i'll be parting out my mcd soon and i've got lots of gearing that u may wanna try .

Roadrunner · 02-08-2010, 01:58 PM

So Bajaraji,,Just curios why you are partring out your mcd 1000..Instead of selling it whole..Is that the best way to try and get what `is invested Back??And also i was wondering if you could take me to school for a little while on the gearing you was talking about..

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Originally Posted by bajaraji

ok clone good luck. u may just tweek that thing eons better that i did for mine and come out with better performance then i did. waitin to hear from u on the completed project. hope it all goes well.
P.S. your buddy's fg baja must have malaria. i'll be parting out my mcd soon and i've got lots of gearing that u may wanna try .

bajaraji · 02-08-2010, 03:22 PM

my thought is that if i put the time into it for repairs and get it up to some kinda par, that i won't get what i've invsted. Last ime i tried driving it my spekrum decided to take a lunch brake in a parking lot with curbs. Bought a brnd new chassis and parts but i have not installed them yet. It's been bout a year since. my gearing plan was sugesstions that i got from STEVE O and a couple of overseas guys who sugested that a high revng 23 or 26 motor with torque ratios gears would make that a fast ass buggy. It took forever to get up to speed with the high speed gears even with a modifed 28 / 30 motor. on the day of my torque gears test was the run away wreck. Don't quite remember the ratios but after that wreck i was through with it.

wagon · 02-08-2010, 04:19 PM

Hi....road runner....Try www.MCDRC.com ...plenty of info there... there is a gear ratio chart showing all Ratios for accleleration and top end....i use 30+33 then 23+26 and it is rappid of the line....you can change 23+26 around to giv u more top end and less acceleration...also an upgraded clutch, e.g. 3 or 4 shoe might be an idea.i have a mcd EvoIII/ulitmate with a 29cc an a 4 shoe an had no problems yet. A 2 shoe clutch dont last that long, as say in a hpi baja, due to more tourqe....hope this helps...

gottaclone · 02-09-2010, 02:34 AM

I would first like to say thanks to ZOUZ10

He and I came to a deal on his Baja 1000 and I can't be any happier.
Now the wait will kill me.

Bajaraji, I do think his FG has a case of something, but it's not my car and he is happy with it. I am sure that my MCD will be different. Even with the draw backs.... in my opinion is a great platform. I will be spending some time here to pick your brains for great info.

That said what is a good motor size to move these heavyweights around?

01-31-2010, 12:46 PM	#17
zouz10 Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Florida Posts: 1,496 Trader Feedback: (0) Thanks: 1 Thanked 5 Times in 5 Posts	No problemo, hope everything works out, Chris
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01-31-2010, 04:42 PM	#18
Roadrunner Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Fort Worth,Texas Posts: 7 Trader Feedback: (0) Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Mcd front diff So Chris nice to talk to somebody with some expierence..So from some of what i read in some of the forums,the front diff out of a evo3 will sit in the Diff housing for an original MCD Baja,,no modds necessary..Whats your take???
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02-02-2010, 04:14 PM	#21
cryptonblade Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: St-Martens-Latem(belgium) Posts: 103 Trader Feedback: (0) Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	at the top of the page u can see "USER CP"(under the yellow hummer)push it, then push on "EDIT YOUR DETAILS" scrol down and u can fill in your location and if u like a bit more......
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02-07-2010, 01:56 AM	#23
gottaclone Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Wisconsin Posts: 119 Trader Feedback: (0) Thanks: 1 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Thanks Bajaraji for the info.I also have a HPI BAJA 5B for bashing and racing. I am still going to look into MCD BAJA 1000. There is a member that is giving me a great deal on his. Hopefully we can work it out and I will have it soon. I have been eyeing them for awhile and can not wait to add one to my collection. My friend had a FG BAJA 4WD and MY HPI killed it where ever we would go. On the road, BMx tracks, open fields it has no chance what so ever. Our motors are even close in size... so I am not a big fan of the FG BAJA. He now has a 5T with the same motor and it alot closer race.
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02-07-2010, 02:14 PM	#24
Bigger the Better Moderator Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: In the frozen tundra Minnesota Posts: 6,382 Trader Feedback: (3) Thanks: 0 Thanked 11 Times in 10 Posts	The gearing on the HPI and FG are different. Have him gear different for speed. There is no reason a 4wd should not beat a 2wd on a track unless you kick his butt on driving. __________________ If I had a million dollars I'd own them all.
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02-07-2010, 06:40 PM	#25
gottaclone Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Wisconsin Posts: 119 Trader Feedback: (0) Thanks: 1 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Yes, I do have some skills when it comes to driving.and more time on the suspension tune then any other part of it. I take that into consideration...but when I drive his, I still have a time trying to get around him. The BAJA 5B is just to fast and light on any straights. It can get a good lead into the corners.. naturally the 4wd cars corner faster and that is where they catch up. Once out of the corner though it is a lost cause so to say, Even if they passed. All these things are my reason to get a 4WD MCD. I do believe that with the proper gearing and driver that thing should "KILL" a 5b. And the weight issue keeps comming up. With a little research found that the MCD BAJA 1000(not the ultimate) built properly will only weigh 2-3 pounds heavier then a loaded HPI 5T. This said a good 4.75 -5 hp motor and GEARING will rocket that large scale rc.
	Reply

02-07-2010, 09:44 PM	#26
bajaraji Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: houston Posts: 42 Trader Feedback: (1) Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	ok clone good luck. u may just tweek that thing eons better that i did for mine and come out with better performance then i did. waitin to hear from u on the completed project. hope it all goes well. P.S. your buddy's fg baja must have malaria. i'll be parting out my mcd soon and i've got lots of gearing that u may wanna try .
	Reply

02-08-2010, 03:22 PM	#28
bajaraji Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: houston Posts: 42 Trader Feedback: (1) Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	my thought is that if i put the time into it for repairs and get it up to some kinda par, that i won't get what i've invsted. Last ime i tried driving it my spekrum decided to take a lunch brake in a parking lot with curbs. Bought a brnd new chassis and parts but i have not installed them yet. It's been bout a year since. my gearing plan was sugesstions that i got from STEVE O and a couple of overseas guys who sugested that a high revng 23 or 26 motor with torque ratios gears would make that a fast ass buggy. It took forever to get up to speed with the high speed gears even with a modifed 28 / 30 motor. on the day of my torque gears test was the run away wreck. Don't quite remember the ratios but after that wreck i was through with it. Last edited by bajaraji; 02-08-2010 at 03:24 PM. Reason: gramar error
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02-08-2010, 04:19 PM	#29
wagon Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Walton on naze ESSEX Posts: 150 Trader Feedback: (0) Thanks: 0 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts	Hi....road runner....Try www.MCDRC.com ...plenty of info there... there is a gear ratio chart showing all Ratios for accleleration and top end....i use 30+33 then 23+26 and it is rappid of the line....you can change 23+26 around to giv u more top end and less acceleration...also an upgraded clutch, e.g. 3 or 4 shoe might be an idea.i have a mcd EvoIII/ulitmate with a 29cc an a 4 shoe an had no problems yet. A 2 shoe clutch dont last that long, as say in a hpi baja, due to more tourqe....hope this helps...
	Reply

02-09-2010, 02:34 AM	#30
gottaclone Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Wisconsin Posts: 119 Trader Feedback: (0) Thanks: 1 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	I would first like to say thanks to ZOUZ10 He and I came to a deal on his Baja 1000 and I can't be any happier. Now the wait will kill me. Bajaraji, I do think his FG has a case of something, but it's not my car and he is happy with it. I am sure that my MCD will be different. Even with the draw backs.... in my opinion is a great platform. I will be spending some time here to pick your brains for great info. That said what is a good motor size to move these heavyweights around?
	Reply