Thinking about going ported?

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Trip

Trip

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Help me out guys, I am thinking about going to a ported head for the 2 bolt CY23 that's in my Marder clone buggy. I don't really need gobs of torque, but it has to be smooth, reliable, consistent and have a good amount of mid and top rpm. I am planning on possibly getting the 4wd conversion so it has to be able to spin that too. (If I can get the suspension set the way I want it, I may not need the 4wd.)

The performance I have now is OK, but it's a slug and I know there is a ton of room for improvement. The new head will be mounted on the stock 2 bolt CY case. No strokers, I am not looking to dump in a O'Neils 30.5 into this! I would be willing to go to a 26cc but no larger. Think, light and responsive, not wheelies and burnouts. That's what my MT is for.

No marine heads or anything that has Iron crosses, snakes, or dragons on it. It must appear to be stock.

I am not looking to spend more than around $150 for the head, preferably a Zenoah head, but I am open to suggestions. No Trever Simpson ridiculousness, he is WAY out of my price range.. I want something that looks stock on the outside, so I can put the black cover back on it, but something that really rips!

I will also be looking for a pipe to go with this setup. I am thinking about the FG pipe. I like the FG pipe because it's aluminum so it's light, I won't have to remove half the body to mount it and it's relatively quiet. I am open to suggestions, but I am NOT putting a hillbilly Dom pipe on it! I plan to race this, not show off to the local hicks.

I bought a piece of land and I am thinking about building a track, but before I do that, I need something that will really run and handle like a professional, uugh "Race Car" (I hate that term) I gots to be representin, You know! (I'm sorry, I will never do that again) But I do need something that is light and quick. I can drive, quite well actually, but now I need a 1/6 car that will outrun Savages and Revos on the track, currently I can barely keep up with them.

After I get some suggestions, I am going to start a poll to get some votes, the winner will be mounted in the Mutilator if/when I get the 4wd kit.

I will start a request for suspension tuning tips in the Marder section.

Thanks,
Trip..
 
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No stroker... Head only.

I am trying to find a good porter is what I am getting at I guess.

I am hoping someone with first had experience will say, "Here is exactly what you want, buy this one" Hopefully Timaaah will chime in with some advise.
 
As far as the Daves port-o-matic head, I've looked at that, briefly, but who did the porting? Was it Chang-Lu or Hector-Gonzales working for buck fifty an hour? Know what I mean?

I was thinking maybe an ESP or O'Neil's... Someone with a reputation and pride in their work. If I have to cough up more dough for a better head, so be it. I want to keep it under 200 bux though.

I just want a quality ported cyl, something that the porter would be proud to admit he ported. Hell anybody with 10 fingers and a dremel can port a motor, but it doesn't mean it's gonna be worth a poop when they're done... I have to be able to tune it.

What's the deal with ESP, Isn't he a scooter guy? How is his work?
 
I have a couple ESP heads and have talked with him direct on another head issue I had and would HIGHLY recommend his work. He will stand by it.
I have heard members also have the same luck with Oneils. I have not heard about any others.
 
Go with Dougs 26cc zen topend. Doug (ESP) is a Michigander (live in Grand Rapids), builds very nice topends. his motor are full of RPM and have good torque output, even on the 26cc topends.

install new crank bearings and oil seals with the new topend.

you have to be sure to buy the Zenoah Pin Washers, as they don't come with a new TOPEND, IF your using a CY bottom end. if the bottom end is a Zenoah, you ll have them with your current motor.
 
I was hoping you were going to pop in with some expertise Tim, thank you. I thought ESP was in Mi, but I couldn't remember for sure, it's been awhile!

Does he have a store? I mean could I go in and look around?

I think I am going to pick up two different heads, one ported for manly torque for my MT and the other for speed and rpm for the buggy.

Anybody have a pipe recommendation for the ported ESP for the buggy? I have been told the Victory RC pipe is the pipe to have. The MT is going to keep the JetPro...
 
I am thinking about maybe going with a head from TMR Performance, this guys seems to know his poop and has some nice looking stuff. I have already talked with him a few times and he can build the motor I am looking for, for about 200 bucks with a new crank.

I will be talking again with him tomorrow to get more information from him about this build and get his recommendation on a pipe selection.

My whole goal here is to do something totally different that what the average Joe is doing. I know I can buy an off the shelf motor or head that has been mass produced in a CNC somewhere, but I want something unique. Not TS unique, because I know I cannot afford his stuff, but still something different none the less.

We'll see.

Trip..
 
Doug doesn't sell directly, unless you have a custom Reed case motor built. otherwise you have to go thru DDM. which isnt bad at all really.


when it comes to these little motors, the more unique they are, the more trouble you get. lol not really, but in all seriousness, its the small things done to the motors that make the differance.

I would suggest you speak with DogPile Racing. Bob does excellent work as well, and isnt very expensive. it will atleast give you another option and source for info.
 
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