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mooman007uk said:
he's also got a vid up at milestone and there's a few on youtube... I just looked to see how it takes the jumps...good thru the air and plants when it lands, point and squirt thru the turns...
I've yet to see an mcd vid where they kick ass, 90% of the vids on youtube are on flat dirt tracks and the rest don't inspire me with the handling and i draw my conclusions from multi brand owners as far as durabilty goes. i was considering an mcd baja1000 as i said...but after all the feed back i've decided it's not for me. The mcd is also not really proven itself yet either cos they keep having to improve the faults from previous models...evo111 is their 3rd go at it....once they get their s#$t together i'll maybe look again.
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Well,its been said about a million times that any stock 1/5 rig needs aftermarket improvements to make them reliable and I'm sure even the best of the best could use some help.The thing I like about MCD is that they are continually evolving and bettering their product to make it reliable out of the box.Its unfortunate that some first and second gen owners had a less than perfect experience,but at least they can be assured that MCD is putting in the R&D into their product to make it better.The parts are now available to correct all the past pitfalls and the newest EVO III's are supposedly the best so far with many of its past ills dealt with.
FG is one of the older 1/5 scale producers and I have yet to read anything positive about their Monster Truck and Monster Beetle out of the box.I know this because I really want a Monster Beetle and have been researching them.They are plagued with problems up and down and need a serious infusion of cash to make them reliable as well.Maybe they need an EVO II and EVO III as well.I'm not bashing FG or your opinion,I'm just pointing out that FG or any other make for that matter isn't immune to failure either and that MCD is at least putting in the effort to remedy their issues.

Frank
 
I totally agree Frank, I'm not knocking MCD i was just saying that by the time i'd built it up I'd be able to buy the fg comp and my experience with my own 2wd fg leads me in that direction again, i've over 3k now into my 2wd fgbaja but it's got everything bar alloy front end which will stay that way. I will say that my baja was very tough out the box though..needed the alloy gear plate, diff and upper arms and that was it really....everything else i put on it was my choice and not really a necessity.
As for the beetle they're tough but need a few bits mentioned above...but like any LS the big tires bring extra stresses and breakages.

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If you're looking for a 4x4 basher that's cheap to buy and build to bashable strength check out the rampage...i just bought one...the feedback on these is very positive...and their customer relations and ongoing improvements are awesome
 
mooman007uk said:
I totally agree Frank, I'm not knocking MCD i was just saying that by the time i'd built it up I'd be able to buy the fg comp and my experience with my own 2wd fg leads me in that direction again, i've over 3k now into my 2wd fgbaja but it's got everything bar alloy front end which will stay that way. I will say that my baja was very tough out the box though..needed the alloy gear plate, diff and upper arms and that was it really....everything else i put on it was my choice and not really a necessity.
As for the beetle they're tough but need a few bits mentioned above...but like any LS the big tires bring extra stresses and breakages.

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If you're looking for a 4x4 basher that's cheap to buy and build to bashable strength check out the rampage...i just bought one...the feedback on these is very positive...and their customer relations and ongoing improvements are awesome
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Mooman,That's an awesome looking ride you have.I think I may turn my attention away from the Monster Beetle and more toward the FG Baja like yours (what to do,what to do).I don't really need another 1/5th scale really,I was just entertaining the idea of trying something other than HPI or MCD.I don't want to spend a lot of cash and would prefer something used that's already somewhat battle tested and upgraded.I'd probably have better luck finding the FG baja anyway.The Rampage has crossed my mind before as well but I want something less monster-truck-like that will be agile both on and offroad.Sorry for hijacking this thread,we can get back on track now.

Frank
 
thanks riff raff, hey bud I can honestly say that you would really like the fgbaja if your looking for onroad and offroad capabilities. I've run against hopped up 5b's and no bs have smoked them on dirtbike tracks in our local gravel pits...don't just take my word for it , there are many positve write ups on the fg it really does handle well and is one tough mother with just a few upgrades, they are quite a few to be had used with upgrades too.
It's also a bullet onroad especially with the 2 speed, this is mine in on road mode before the last round of alloy upgrades and 4 plate diff
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The FG is there for a lone time. It is the bet on out there along with the HPI Baja.
FG have a lot of upgrade parts from the factory, thy simply not opting them on there cares so that people can chose what thy what to upgrade.
That is my opinion.
 
Shiny said:
The FG is there for a lone time. It is the bet on out there along with the HPI Baja.
FG have a lot of upgrade parts from the factory, thy simply not opting them on there cares so that people can chose what thy what to upgrade.
That is my opinion.
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Well then,its easy to say that any maufacturer that's selling turds is doing the same.That makes no sense.If I buy an HPI Baja or an FG or an MCD,I expect it to be reliable and not have to pay for upgrades.The unfortunate reality is that no 1/5 scale is 100% reliable and that's not built into them.What manufacturer wants to build weaknesses into their products?That my friend,is how you lose business.If I'm endlessly breaking control arms,I upgrade them because I have to,not because I want to.

Frank
 
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It's not about purposely building in weaknesse but it's a a price thing...fg sell say the baja for about a grand, no radio, you can buy the 2wd comp model with just about all the alloy upgrades for 2 grand
http://www.rc-car-online-shop.de/lshop,showdetail,10239,e,1230425196-10265,autos.fg.fg_buggy,fg_baja_buggy_htalu,,Tshowrub--autos.fg.fg_buggy,.htm

how many punters will you get for the more expensive model...not many...it's all about affordablity and the mass market.
think of it this way, bmw sell nice cars...however their base model doesn't even come with a cd player...it's a cassette/radio...they don't even make cassettes anymore so the first thing people do is buy the cd upgrade $500, ok so now you want ac cos base doesn't have it...$1000 see where this is going...bmws core business is the 3 series in europe all the reps drive them now instead of ford mondeos cos the base 318 is the same price..but comes with jack poop...the mondeo is nicely equipped but because bmw is a bmw and not a ford alot of badge snobs get the bm with few extras...when you're driving down the road no one knows if you have ac or sat nav... all car companies do it to make their product more affordable to the masses, it's called marketing.
Our hobby is not exempt from the market practice of making vehicles affordable to the mass market by offering base models. largescale ent cheap whatever you buy so manufacturers need base models. you can buy the all alloy, with all bells and whistles, cars but they cost 2-3k...buyers have the choice to buy base and upgrade or buy the top line straight off.
As I said before, from my experience the fgbaja...due to it'e smaller wheels (same for leopard and marder) was as tough as hell with just a few upgrades, alloy gear plate, diff and upper arms...from ebay.co.uk about $200...so for 1200 you got a pretty reliable rc unless you get silly...that would be me...and endo, barrel roll and smack into things at speed:rolleyes: then you're gonna tweak the odd part. Doing all that i only stripped a front plastic upright, got some play on the lower front arms and stretched the rear arm rose joints...about $50 to replace.
I'm more than impressed and happy with the durability, my near base baja, had and that's why i rate fg so highly. Like I said i upgraded 90% of my baja thru choice not necessity...my problem is i can't stop, it's an addiction.

Sorry for the essay but I hope it puts things into perspective
 
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mooman007uk said:
It's not about purposely building in weaknesse but it's a a price thing...fg sell say the baja for about a grand, no radio, you can buy the 2wd comp model with just about all the alloy upgrades for 2 grand
http://www.rc-car-online-shop.de/lshop,showdetail,10239,e,1230425196-10265,autos.fg.fg_buggy,fg_baja_buggy_htalu,,Tshowrub--autos.fg.fg_buggy,.htm

how many punters will you get for the more expensive model...not many...it's all about affordablity and the mass market.
think of it this way, bmw sell nice cars...however their base model doesn't even come with a cd player...it's a cassette/radio...they don't even make cassettes anymore so the first thing people do is buy the cd upgrade $500, ok so now you want ac cos base doesn't have it...$1000 see where this is going...bmws core business is the 3 series in europe all the reps drive them now instead of ford mondeos cos the base 318 is the same price..but comes with jack poop...the mondeo is nicely equipped but because bmw is a bmw and not a ford alot of badge snobs get the bm with few extras...when you're driving down the road no one knows if you have ac or sat nav... all car companies do it to make their product more affordable to the masses, it's called marketing.
Our hobby is not exempt from the market practice of making vehicles affordable to the mass market by offering base models. largescale ent cheap whatever you buy so manufacturers need base models. you can buy the all alloy, with all bells and whistles, cars but they cost 2-3k...buyers have the choice to buy base and upgrade or buy the top line straight off.
As I said before, from my experience the fgbaja...due to it'e smaller wheels (same for leopard and marder) was as tough as hell with just a few upgrades, alloy gear plate, diff and upper arms...from ebay.co.uk about $200...so for 1200 you got a pretty reliable rc unless you get silly...that would be me...and endo, barrel roll and smack into things at speed:rolleyes: then you're gonna tweak the odd part. Doing all that i only stripped a front plastic upright, got some play on the lower front arms and stretched the rear arm rose joints...about $50 to replace.
I'm more than impressed and happy with the durability, my near base baja, had and that's why i rate fg so highly. Like I said i upgraded 90% of my baja thru choice not necessity...my problem is i can't stop, it's an addiction.

Sorry for the essay but I hope it puts things into perspective
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Not you again:Djk I fully agree about the price thing,however;upscale CD players and BMW's are equivelent to bling and not a necessity.Reliability should be a necessity regardless the price range.Check out consumer reports and see who the reliability champs are related to automobiles...give you a hint...it 'aint one of the high end manufacturers.The top three spots are held by low budget manufacturers.Manufacturers don't sell you a product with sub par components fully expecting the consumer to upgrade.The components in products no matter the material are designed to be as strong as necessary to be reliable.Does KIA build cars with the expectation that consumers will take up the slack for poor build quality?I hope not,they wont be around for long if they do.

Frank

P.S. Easy,I'm really sorry about hijacking your thread again:oops::blush:
 
lads i don't mean to interupt again here,look you are not talking about real size cars here you are talking about 1/5th scale models and i can only agree with mooman once again 135percent:clown:
he only makes perfect sense.

now in favour of what you are saying frank,its no bother upgrading to alloy like i did,but the WEIGHT is the KEY issue here,car was bought in plastic and why should it have to be changed to alloy like(obvious i know,stronger)but i mean not everybody wants alloy, power/weight ratio needs to be considered too.

now i want to explain yet again to frank,not only when you have all your car upgraded to alloy u need to consider a high priced motor too to make up for the extra weight u gained. ADDES ON A S##T load of weight,mine did anyway.

understand.....
 
dc2 typer man28 said:
lads i don't mean to interupt again here,look you are not talking about real size cars here you are talking about 1/5th scale models and i can only agree with mooman once again 135percent:clown:
he only makes perfect sense.

now in favour of what you are saying frank,its no bother upgrading to alloy like i did,but the WEIGHT is the KEY issue here,car was bought in plastic and why should it have to be changed to alloy like(obvious i know,stronger)but i mean not everybody wants alloy, power/weight ratio needs to be considered too.

now i want to explain yet again to frank,not only when you have all your car upgraded to alloy u need to consider a high priced motor too to make up for the extra weight u gained. ADDES ON A S##T load of weight,mine did anyway.

understand.....
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dc2,I really,really,rreeeaaallllyyyyy,want to comment on your response because admittedly, I am a stubborn SOB,however;out of respect to "Easy"(who's thread we hijacked),I will withhold my commentary:dots::off-topic::D.Thanks.

Frank
 
RIFF-RAFF said:
dc2,I really,really,rreeeaaallllyyyyy,want to comment on your response because admittedly, I am a stubborn SOB,however;out of respect to "Easy"(who's thread we hijacked),I will withhold my commentary:dots::off-topic::D.Thanks.

Frank
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sorry lads if i hyjacked this,but sure i suppose thats what these threads are about,the more opinions the better.:boat:
 
dc2 typer man28 said:
lads i don't mean to interupt again here,look you are not talking about real size cars here you are talking about 1/5th scale models and i can only agree with mooman once again 135percent:clown:
he only makes perfect sense.

now in favour of what you are saying frank,its no bother upgrading to alloy like i did,but the WEIGHT is the KEY issue here,car was bought in plastic and why should it have to be changed to alloy like(obvious i know,stronger)but i mean not everybody wants alloy, power/weight ratio needs to be considered too.

now i want to explain yet again to frank,not only when you have all your car upgraded to alloy u need to consider a high priced motor too to make up for the extra weight u gained. ADDES ON A S##T load of weight,mine did anyway.

understand.....
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All I will say is, wither it’s a needle or a space ship marketing is marketing it will not change.
FG, MCD… BMW, TOYOTA… if there is no profit thy will not sell it. Thy are in it for the money not fame.
Lets put it this way.
Will you mass produce it and sell it with cost price.
 
mooman007uk said:
For all doubters of the fg 4x4 check out pwaicons latest vid, I hope, Pwaicon, you don't mind me posting your vid...it mentions another forum my apologies Mr mod, he's had it while with no belt problems at all and the thing handles and goes like a bastard, I believe it'll be 2 speed soon!...I'm pretty sure i have found my next rc after scrapping the mcdbaja1000 idea...too much negative feedback, by the time it's been upgraded it'll be as much as the fg and not handle as good...i'm starting to save from this point on
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TPb8Fkbh4_A
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No problem Mooman, post away. Feel free to share any of my YouTube videos, that’s what they are for.;)
 
Hello

Hello all the hijackers ( just kidding)

Thanks for the inputs .

Sorry about starting this messy thread.


All I wanted is to but a Baja comp and look what happened hooolllyy Sh*t.


Bling factors lovers must look at Cleons THAT IS BLING and not that much more $$ either Gents.

Fg cut corners and that is all if they care ( I doubt that) Make it a bit bigger and wider READ WHAT THE MASSES ARE ASKING FOR

IF it was a bit better I would be holding this buggy in my hands guys.

HAPPY NEW YEAR TO ALL OF US FG, MCD, HARM, LB, ELCON and others all personal liking.

ENJOY the HOBBY AND PASSION FOR RACING THESE MACHINES !!!

ALL THE BEST

EASY
 
Sorry for the thread take over Easy.It wasn't really a messy thread,we were debating is all.One of the great benefits to large scale forums is you weed out alot of the more immature crowd and fights then become debates.

Frank
 
:ph34r: everybody remain calm and no one will get hurt:2guns:

happy new year everyone

If they made the baja the same size as the leopard it would be longer and wider...maybe fg will release a 4x4 comp leopard soon that'd be cool
 
Hello

GOD BLESS THAT IDEA MOONMAN .

THAT WOULD BE THE BEST THING TO HAPPEN 21 lbs alloy leoppard to take over the rest of the trouble on the site here :)

It is all good guys . but fg might do this for next year for sure to compete with the cleon.

Lets not drink too much new year's eve. NOT .

Enjoy the night but no drunk buggy driving so no one gets hurt here:nono:

:phone:Hello fg we need some secret weapons for the 2009 please an alloy race Leoppard super light with a 4 bolt motor and new arms too.

:cool2::cool2:

Have a good one everyone !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
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