This is just a theory. If every one has the old front page in thier cache or the ISP/server cahce then if you could link to a page that is not in the cache it would take you directly to the new hpibajaforum.com site. So if someone wouldn't mind doing this for those of us who are still stuck here. Please do the following: Go to hpibajforum and start a new thread. It doesn't matter what it's about. It will provide a link to a page that no one has in their cache. Then post a link to that page over hear so that we can link to the new thread. This would allow us access to the new website. I have no idea if this would work because there is the issue of loggin in and what not but It's just an idea.