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JariV

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For starters,

are there other members here who have got banned to Hpibajaforum?

I was. The reason for that was the forum owner didn't like me give negative feedback on a product by one of the well-known and respectable vendors. I only posted a link to the on-going discussion to this vendor's section politely and directly asking them to comment the well known problem of one of the products of this vendor.

This was not the first time. I have got warnings from him before or his suboordinates.

So he gave me a warning with a PM and called me stupid. I asked where is the freedom of speech. I didn't call him names. I was pissed off, not only because of this incident but also because of couple times before when he was rude and didn't care less about anything than his own opinion.

He sent another PM with the same tone of voice, calling me names again. I told him that he can keep his forum free of me and practice hitlerism all he wants.

Now he deletes posts of other members who agree with me. There was a new post by an old member just a little time ago being on the same side with me and now the owner replied immediately again to that thread that the only reason I got banned was the PMs I sent to him.
Partly true, but not all if you ask me. Then again, nobody asked. I just feel that it is so weird that you get banned immediately and that means that you don't have any kind of possibility to defend your own opinion.

Well well, I know that I'm not the only one. I heard many people got judged and executed in the same forum before me.

Ok, got this out of my chest. That's all. Needed to blow off some steam.
 
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There is no such thing as freedom of speech - anywhere, unless you're a flag burning terrist sympathiser.

In the RC world, some people own forums for the benefit of the sport/hobby and use common sense to administer them.

Other people own forums to promote what they like and will ban people in the blink of an eye if they disagree with anything that brings revenue in for the forum.
 
I disagree with your first sentence but fully agree with the latter two.

Finnish rc-forums are quite different then. But that's not the point.
 
There have been a few come on here that have been banned from the HPI baja forums but all are welcome on LSF.

To your point about the vendor, no vendor can get it right 100% of the time, the difference between the good and the bad is how they deal with it and the first part is acknowledging the fault / mistake and reacting in such a way as to maintain your faith in them and resolve the problem swiftly.
 
Exactly.

This vendor is Turtle. Great products and will defo buy again. But the actual problem was that USABaja5 (Rob) is just deleting the posts all over that forum so how are you even suppose to make yourself heard over there. No way. And right after that: "You are banned. Date to be lifted: Never"

And I can see that the freedom to speak your mind is stronger in Scandinavia as the people here in Denmark, Sweden, Norway and Finland do not have sponsor-owned forums where somebody is banning people just for fun. That kind of a person would not survive here. Or maybe we do but nobody wants to have a discussion in a forum like that.

Rob used these kind of words about me: stupid, punk, jack-ass etc. I'm not putting up with that but I will not go down to his level, he is just a small crying boy to me. Same goes here and any other forum for that matter; I will speak my mind if I decide to do so without insults or getting personal. If a vendor doesn't like what I say he can discuss that with me the civilized way, get improvement ideas but I will NOT accept somebody shooting me down. I would say that it is bad business for a vendor who does not listen to his customers.
 
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Of a serious nature, don't forget that 'respect is mutual', or 'do unto others as you wish they would to you'.

All forums have rules, which require respect.
If some Forum 'owners' get a little power hungry, then it's probably better just not going there.

On this forum, as stated above, all are welcome here, and Michael's 'kind of good admin'.
Al.
 
JariV,
I think you were banned for being a punk....... hahaha, whatever that means!

IMO you should have made every effort to contact the manufacturer and tried to come to some sort of an agreement with them first.

I'm a manufacturer and if somebody has any issues with me or my products and contacts me directly it always gets resolved however, if somebody jumps on the forum like a keyboard warrior and goes on a witch hunt then they are on their own.

People go on forums to be informed or to inform others but, it's a fine line between providing constructive criticism and rubbishing someone / something.
 
But I WAS NOT the keyboard warrior in any way. I asked Turtle to participate into the discussion to find the common problem everybody using that product knows. And did that politely, absolutely.

That forum has manufacturer section and those sections are there so end users can discuss about the products. Or so I thought.

When i think of all that money I have spent on rc over the past 6-7 years then i would think that all the vendors would want me to stick around.

But that time is over and actually I feel good here. I was waiting to get banned here because of this topic.

Btw; who is this person from Birmingham UK? Or was that an inside joke of somekind?
 
I need to mail order 200kg of rotten pork to that guys door :lol:

If I do that then I am truly a PUNK ! :lol: :lol:
 
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that really stinks had a similar problem at another forum for redcats,, a guy was making some nice aluminum shock towers in my local area and I purchased them,, and showed them on the site with pics,, they were deleted,, got into a emailing fight,, came down do,, the guy had to go buy a membership there ,, so I could show some of his stuff he was making,,, I thought competion and bringing new products to market was a good thing,, especially for a brand where there isn't as much aftermarket for it,, unlike the Baja or losi,,, I wasn't banned,, but did piss me off,,,
 
Same thing happened to me so don't feel all alone if you choose openly a competitors product over his you are banned for life from HBF, no discussion no chance to defend yourself and in my case no warning. He sensors everything on the forum and if you have an opinion other than his you are off the site for good. No one should ever join the site if they expect to have open discussions on any product other than his and then only feed his ego buy saying his products are best whether it is the truth or not. Thats the only way to stay a member of HBF.
 
Hey fellas,thats what LSF is for.You ALL have an opinion.Discussions have been pretty heated and products have been openly discussed weather they are good or bad and no one has been banned for keeping the conversations within reason.
This is probably the best forum out there and this is not a bias opinion.
J;)
 
Rickdragon and jari add another one to the list . Oh and Rob is a member ( I use that term loosely) here so he has read every word of this thread . I got a warning but really don't care about Rob as there are much better forums on the net that don't censor the truth about products. Oh and he also resorted to calling me names in a couple of pms .
 
I agree this forum is a great forum, you can openly discuss products without the worry of being banned for doing so, and i agree that the rules are in place and should be respected. I believe if you have a problem with a product, first contact the seller and give them the oppurtunity to resolve the problem, in my experience most will try their best to do so, their are exceptions but not many. The problem is in the case with being banned on the other site, its not that you neccesarily have a problem with his products, its if you challenge his opinion in anyway your post is deleted you are banned for life, and no one has the oppurtunity to read the post you wrote. Therefor its complete sensorship. And if everyone that this happened to there, would come forward and tell their story, it would blow you away at how many he has done this too. Its good to know that LSF is out there for the hobby, because if the alternative was all that was there to depend on for advice and questions the hobby of largescale would suffer greatly. One last thing their claim to fame is the true HPI forum, i am quite certain if Hpi knew that this was the type of forum that was representing there product, they would be very dissapointed to say the least. Well its time to let this topic die for me, you cannot change his ways but you can choose not to worry about such childish behavior and join a respectable forum like LSF, thanks for being there and letting the members voice there opinions and thoughts, of course within reason, but to do so without sensorship.
 
Im enjoying this forum,, been into rc since was kid,, this is about only site left that deals with the clones anymore,, hpi guys are so against them,, read a bunch of stuff on here too from a few haters of them,, I just bought my 001 king motor roller,, im loving it,, had a 30.5 from my redcat putting in it,,, loving the aftermarket maybe too much,, bought to be a cheap car to run,, well,, anyways,,,, cpl hundred here,, cpl hundred there,,,lets say hpi and the aftermarket should be loving me,,, just need some servos and a pipe,, should be a runner soon,,, just working on making a front chassis stiffner skid plate for the front from some thick 7075 aluminum, ,then putting the rpm bumper over it,,,but anyways,, love this site,, keep up the great work......
 
I got a warning for mentioning the word "clone" in a thread over there. Some guy posted a photo of his baja and asked if it was a real HPI or not. I said it's a clone. Next thing I knew I received a PM saying I was given a warning for mentioning clones.
 
i got a warning for mentioning the word "clone" in a thread over there. Some guy posted a photo of his baja and asked if it was a real hpi or not. I said it's a clone. Next thing i knew i received a pm saying i was given a warning for mentioning clones.

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See,I'm not banned...;)

J
 
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