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BlakeyB

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Hi guys need some assistance to nail this down. Been reading about tuning and I have gotten alot better at it. Truck starts way easier, but still not as perfect as I would like.

So when starting cold, I put the choke on. Usually first pull maybe second I get the tell tale brapt noice. - Sweet

I open the choke, and now this can take me 6-10 pulls sometimes to start. I usually feel it trying to sputter up at the end of my pulls.

So you think to rich or too lean on the low speed screw? I don't think the high speed has anything to deal with it.

As always your help is appreciated. Been eye balling a rotostart a friend has used just because I would love to start the car with the bug body on ;-) But that is another thread

PS. I see people barely pulling there pull starts to get theres started. Like not even having to hold the truck down? Is that because they have smaller engines? I have a 30.5
 
of course your remembering to pump the primer bulb, right? imy setups been changed to a shredstack, alloy manifold , and i haven't got it dialed in perfect yet on HS needle, but usually 2 to 3 pulls choke on, bleph start try, choke off, and by 3rd pull started.
 
of course your remembering to pump the primer bulb, right? imy setups been changed to a shredstack, alloy manifold , and i haven't got it dialed in perfect yet on HS needle, but usually 2 to 3 pulls choke on, bleph start try, choke off, and by 3rd pull started.

i had a similar problem ,and after reading a thread about the timing gap using a business card ,it was fixed.............Phil
 
Thanks guys, I remember the bulb also I will check the gap, do you remember this post? By the look of my plug I think it might be too rich.

What about the tightness of the pull , is that just the size of the engine?
 
Thanks guys, I remember the bulb also I will check the gap, do you remember this post? By the look of my plug I think it might be too rich.

What about the tightness of the pull , is that just the size of the engine?

you can find gap settings in how to tutorials
 
and theres compare pics i seen on how plug should look, myself i never have pulled mine out yet. just also dbl check any air leaks round carb and intake gaskets, a tiny leak can cause probs too.
 
Tuning a Zenoah engine.

MIXTURE SETTINGS.
Zenoah G230/G260/G290 RC (H) 1.1/2 turns (L) 1.1/4 turns
Settings may also be the same for the CY/Fuelie engines?

These are the factory settings on the mentioned engines. They are set according to local conditions. This is depending on the air filter, exhaust and climate conditions. Use the above settings as a starting guid line and depending on what your engine set up is, you will probally have to make some slight adjustments.

BASIC CARBURETOR ADJUSTMENT.
As I said earlier, the standard settings are just a guid line and most carbs have to be adjusted, If you feel that your no-load (L) or your full load (H) screws are completely misadjusted, then carefully close both screws. Then turning them anti clockwise follow the settings that are listed above.

STARTING A COLD ENGINE
Always make sure the throttle is in the closed position. Now apply the choke which is on the carb on the solo and Zenoah G230 or on the air filter on the earlier Zenoah engines. Press the primer pump located on the carb until the pump is full of fuel, this you will be able to see. Pull the handle until you hear the engine try and start, this usually takes 2-4 pulls. When you reach this stage, open the choke and give another couple of pulls. This should start your engine.

STARTING A WARM ENGINE
Make sure that there is fuel in your primer cap and that the choke is open, then pull cord.

BEFORE YOU START
Before you start to tune your engine there are a couple of basic things that you should check first. Firstly make sure that your spark plug is in good condition. You do this by simply scewing it out of the cylinder and checking it, if the electriod looks too oiled up then change it as it will make things a lot easier. Most plugs come with the gap pre set but it wont hurt to check to make sure its right. Secondly make sure you have enough fuel as it soon runs low with all that testing and reving, also make sure that your filter is on nice and secure with no possibilty of air leaks. And lastly make sure your batteries are nice and charged. Let us begin!

BASIC TUNING
This is based on the assumption that your car starts but is not runing right. Firstly make sure that you have the mixture settings set to the factory settings. This is quite important at this stage. Then Screw the idel scew in till it bites on the spring that it is set in, then give it one more full turn. Doing this should keep your revs up once you have pulled the starter and got her going. Before you pull the starter make sure your radio is on and working. Pull the starter and after a couple of pulls she should start, if not then you may have a problem which we will cover in our trouble shooter section. Whilst the car is running you will be able to tell if the engine is reving to high just by listening to it. If it is turn the idel screw out slightly(anti-clock wise), only slightly as the engine is still cold and does need to warm up, it is pointless trying to tune a cold engine. Drive the engine until it reaches working temperature. If you notice that the engine decelerates during acceleration, then your engine is running too lean. To rectifie this the no load screw L should be turned anti clockwise. Imagine the screw being a clock, then your adjustments have to be made in 5 minute turns, in other words very small movements. If the engine revs up slowly and runs rough under clouds of smoke, this means you are probally running with an over rich mixture. In this case you should turn the no load scew in clockwise by 5 mins at a time until you have rectified the problem. Run the car repeatedly making minor adjustments until you are happy with the way it is performing.

MAXIMUM REV RANGE
In order to adjust the maxium range of speed, lift the rear wheels and rev the engine shortly at maximum revs. Now you can adjust the Full load screw H to the left to lean off the mixture or to the right if too rich.You will hear the engine reaching its peak revs and you can also notice when it starts to loose the peak. The best way to tune your car is to run it on a track or field and make your adjustments after each run. Remember to make very slight adjustments at a time, this way you will see your improvements a lot better.

POINTS TO REMEMBER
When tuning your engine, after every run make sure you check the bubble on the carb. If this is empty after testing then this means your engine is too hot and running too lean. What you should be looking for is a full bubble or nearly full at least.

TOO MUCH SMOKE
You should also be aware of your engine if it smokes to much, this means it is running too rich and is getting too much fuel. To adjust this turn your L screw in by 5 mins, remember imagine that the screw is the face of a clock, small adjustments is all you need.
 
Thanks outaluck. But I think I have the basic tuning down truck runs great. I was just looking for advice on some fine tuning to make it start easier. Sometimes the devil is in the details.
 
Hey bigger problem is solved. I returned the engine back to stock settings. Then replaced the plug. I think I had just tweeked to much being a noob.

Doing that set it back good
 
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