Clutch carrier upgrade

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just stock engines- pipe and carb- velocity stack- and a few other homemade mods.- f-270, hy 30.5, cy 29- love the cy 29- its the way it pulls @ lower rpm-s. have a bunch of parts to keep these guys running for quite a while. question? has this clutch part broken before- the stock factory part? just wondering- do you run on dirt or asphalt most of the time?- i ask you this because - you have a hot obr engine- with a high rpm spring.- no idea if this is a factor- when the hot rod engine reves up enough to lock up the clutch on high traction surfaces- it could be stressing the part beyond its limit?- just a guess-- frankly, i would think that a dog bone- or some other place in the drive train would break first- but who knows huh?- perhaps others can post there thoughts on this problem and help you resolve.- these are spendy parts to break---
 
ChuenouXiao said:
Oh... about that part... I told them I don't want a replacement because its not real aluminum. He gave me a full refund. Awesome customer service at Dave. Now I'm just waiting for Elcon cause the Lauterbacher one piece pad doesn't fit into my XB.
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Why not? A 54mm clutch should be universal.
 
RCDAD said:
Why not? A 54mm clutch should be universal.
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It fits but the slightly thicker Lauterbacher pretrude out toward the clutch bell a bit more (about 1 to 2 mm more). That causes binding when I screw all my bolts together on the gear plate (thus tightening the bell over the Lauterbacher). I didn't even bother starting my engine cause I will damage the Lauterbacher and my clutch bell. Oh... and my car would run off :D
 
alfred e numan said:
just stock engines- pipe and carb- velocity stack- and a few other homemade mods.- f-270, hy 30.5, cy 29- love the cy 29- its the way it pulls @ lower rpm-s. have a bunch of parts to keep these guys running for quite a while. question? has this clutch part broken before- the stock factory part? just wondering- do you run on dirt or asphalt most of the time?- i ask you this because - you have a hot obr engine- with a high rpm spring.- no idea if this is a factor- when the hot rod engine reves up enough to lock up the clutch on high traction surfaces- it could be stressing the part beyond its limit?- just a guess-- frankly, i would think that a dog bone- or some other place in the drive train would break first- but who knows huh?- perhaps others can post there thoughts on this problem and help you resolve.- these are spendy parts to break---
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My stock clutch carrier that came with the engine broke about 7 months ago from today (had my XB for more then a year and a half now and replaced my stock engine with a OBR Pro Stock about 7 month after owning my XB). So I replaced my stock carrier from the OBR with another stock carrier from Dave. It broke around 3 months ago I think. Then replaced it with a so call aluminum Lauterbacher... that snaped too (note this is only happening with the 8K spring self installed into my stock pads from OBR). I have to replace both cups in the front portion of my center differential with hardened cups because they are bent due to the stress. I was running RWD when it broke lol :D I think if what everyone is telling me is true that they don't really break their clutch carrier that often, then maybe its my 8K spring. Possibly when I installed it myself, It took a bit of force to get it inside the pads due to the red coating on the spring. With that, over time as the spring ages, it doesn't hold true its perfect position and is slightly offset? With a 5.5hp OBR engine spells disaster for a clutch carrier? Another buddy here mentioned that maybe when I brake at high speed, with the clutch still engage, which may have contributed to the clutch snapping. That's why I decided to skip the head ache and buy the Elcon or Lauterbacher one piece pad. What are your thoughts bud? Oh... I only do pavement run and sometime grass hill runs :D
 
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Do you hammer on the brakes from full throttle? It was mentioned that could cause your problem. That's a lot of stress.
 
RCDAD said:
Do you hammer on the brakes from full throttle? It was mentioned that could cause your problem. That's a lot of stress.
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No honestly Rcdad... I tap my brake. You know like ABS braking, but instead its me doing it. Not super fast but around 2 to 3 tap. Usually the third one is to smooth out the stopping :D I understand that if I take care of my XB, parts will last longer... what do you think?
 
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RCDAD said:
Did you get the clutch installed yet?
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Took a day for Dave to process and resend the Elcon to me. Its should be here this fri. Can't wait to put it together and pop it in. I hope it works.... if not maybe I might destroy my XB for sure now.... with my AK :( LOL JK :D
 
RCDAD said:
Cool. I hope it works good. I would like to try one myself.
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All I wanted was a clutch that would last for a long time and stop cracking on me on the carrier.... I hope all goes well for me.
 
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Guys so I just received my Elcon clutch today. Put it together along with help from the Team Fast Eddy video... thank you so much Team Eddy! The only thing is my Elcon came with a screw instead of a stud for mounting the elcon to the crank? The difference is the screw is holding the one piece Elcon to the crank just like a stock clutch carrier, while the stud holds the piece better because I believe it uses the threads inside the Elcon; where it is mounted onto the crank? I'm afraid to use the screw cause I don't want to destroy my Elcon. I notice it has thread inside the whole where the screw goes through but it doesn't grab at all. It spins freely with teh screw inside the hole of the Elcon; that's strange. I assume using this screw should be ok due to the fact that it came with the kit? Is this a updated version? If you watch the the video toward the end... you will notice he uses a stud which came with his kit while mine is a screw? Please help guys...

You can also see the stud in here instead of the screw

http://www.davesmotors.com/s.nl/c.885035/n.1/it.A/id.1611/.f

Here is the team eddy with the stud toward the end of the video

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[/ame]My pic below shows a screw.... that came with my kit... I wonder if this is a updated kit where the screw is better then the stud? I don't want to install yet until I get all your thoughts on this... please help.
 
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Looks like its been changed. Your outer plate has a taper for that screw. You can mount it without any worries. It would only snug up against the crank regardless of the type of screw.

Looks good so far!
 
RCDAD said:
Looks like its been changed. Your outer plate has a taper for that screw. You can mount it without any worries. It would only snug up against the crank regardless of the type of screw.Looks good so far!
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K... will do.... will keep you guys posted... thanks RCdad :D
 
Now I really want to try one! Lol

It should be a lot more durable for you. They're are supposed to be long lasting also.
 
RCDAD said:
Now I really want to try one! LolIt should be a lot more durable for you. They're are supposed to be long lasting also.
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Yea... that's why I didn't mind paying premium for it :D We'll see how it works out for me. Looks like I will need a star bit to truly tighten the screw onto my crank because my hex is slipping.... your thoughts? Will pick it up tomorrow after work I guess....
 
Yeah, looks like a torx screw. If you have one the same size you can swap it for a hex version.
 
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