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What does the inline switch or whatever that came with the car do? (It was a wire with an inline couple of LED/s I installed it but didn't find the actual purpose referenced anywhere).
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It is an external failsafe. It is not any good.
 
RD Dad;

I noticed you have or had belt conversion kits on you web site. Are you getting any more of those. Did those work pretty well? How often did the belts need changing? That seems like it would improve throttle response and performance quite a bit.

Phil
 
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I will have more in a few weeks.

They do work great and do improve performance.

Some have broke belts, most are stilling running the original.
 
RC dad I ordered some parts from your website.

Was wondering about that fail safe that comes with it mentioned above. I just go the killer bee super bee so I just remover the factory supplied one at this point right?

Let me know when you get the belt drives in. I liek the sound of that setup.

Red cat contacted me today and have looked at the engine. Wanted to know the run conditions up until I sent it to them. Pretty good turn around on them looking at it. He hasn't said what was wrong yet.
 
Below is Redcats finding on my engine so far. I think he is politely stating that I FUBAR'd the engine? Which is kind of the conclusion I came to also. It sounds like I have a fatal compression issue.

"Hello,

Ok so were you driving the car during this time and if so in what manor? What I mean is was it just idling or were you making the clutch engage enough to make the car move and driving it around. The reason I ask is because the piston ring looks to have a lot more time on it than just 10 to 15 minutes. Generally it takes two complete tanks worth running the engine no higher than idle speed. Also by any chance did you take apart the engine?"

They seem like pretty nice fellows.

From what I have heard on here I am not the only guy that didn't follow the engine break in instructions? If that is the case I may have lost the lottery on this one or maybe the chrome plating on this one was a little thinner than others.

Might be time to upgrade the engine. From the sounds of it it is gonna need to be taken apart.
 
redcat wrote this:

Hello,

Well Phill, I would love to just replace your engine for you but unfortunately the problems with your engine are not caused from factory defects. Let me explain what I mean by that. I am thinking that when you first ran the engine it ran pretty good right, I mean from the firsts pull that thing fired up and ran. If that's the case than of course that right there would eliminates any defects that would have caused the engine not to run. I am also pretty sure you ran up until it either started running bad on you or wouldn't start the next time you went to use it. I think the cause of that was the carb simply being loose these engines have to have the carb tight or they will not work. Now comes the part were you may have disassembled the engine. After putting it back together I'm guessing is when it only ran for 10 to 15 mins than quit never to run again.

Ok when I opened the engine up there was severe damage done to the piston and cylinder. The damage looks to have been done by some debris that had entered the engine. I then found a small piece of wire that had come out of your engine which had caused the demise of your engine. The only thing you can do is trade this engine in for a new one at half price which would be $200 and start over again. I really think if you had not taking your engine apart and just tighten the carb your engine would still be running. So just know that you can always call when your stuck because in this hobby mistake can be costly. Please let me know what you would like to do....

Thank you,

Andy
 
I'm willing to admit I didn't give it the proper breaking in, but I didn't pull it apart and suck in a loose wire in the first 15 minutes. I never even took the air cleaner off until days later.

So... this was my response.

Andy;

I NEVER took the engine apart. Where do you see that in my e-mail? If that is what the failure is based on that is incorrect.

I am not sure what kind of evidence you are seeing that I took it apart. I gave up on the thing when the exhaust bolt was damged at the factory. That thing was delivered on a Friday. I ran it on a sunday. It started right up, less than 20 minutes later it never started again. If it sucked in a wire, it sucked it in from something inside when I got it.. I ran it for a little while it killed. On the same day, the same time ten minutes later. it started and killed. The engine never came apart I never even removed the air filter until I took the carb off the day before I sent it to you on a Wednesday three days later. The carb bolts were tight. There was no way I sucked a wire into that thing unless it was already loose somewhere inside. The wrongful self serving accusation is incorrect and uncalled for.

Will you ship the engine back please? I will rebuild the thing with better parts and buy something with a little more quality control or maybe just a little more chrome on the cylinder next time around. A little earlier today I was trying to decide between a dune runner or an xb for my next car, but now it is between a Baja or a Losi. This one apparently needs a tow onto the gun range.

Phil
 
I wouldn't give up just yet on redcats bud! What happened to your factory motor is bull tho. I would ditch it and throw a better 4 bolt in and be done with it
 
philztoy said:
RC dad I ordered some parts from your website. Was wondering about that fail safe that comes with it mentioned above. I just go the killer bee super bee so I just remover the factory supplied one at this point right?

Let me know when you get the belt drives in. I liek the sound of that setup.

Red cat contacted me today and have looked at the engine. Wanted to know the run conditions up until I sent it to them. Pretty good turn around on them looking at it. He hasn't said what was wrong yet.
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Don't bother with that external failsafe.

Belt Drives will be in stock by the end of the week.

BTW thanks for the order.
 
philztoy said:
I'm willing to admit I didn't give it the proper breaking in, but I didn't pull it apart and suck in a loose wire in the first 15 minutes. I never even took the air cleaner off until days later. So... this was my response.

Andy;

I NEVER took the engine apart. Where do you see that in my e-mail? If that is what the failure is based on that is incorrect.

I am not sure what kind of evidence you are seeing that I took it apart. I gave up on the thing when the exhaust bolt was damged at the factory. That thing was delivered on a Friday. I ran it on a sunday. It started right up, less than 20 minutes later it never started again. If it sucked in a wire, it sucked it in from something inside when I got it.. I ran it for a little while it killed. On the same day, the same time ten minutes later. it started and killed. The engine never came apart I never even removed the air filter until I took the carb off the day before I sent it to you on a Wednesday three days later. The carb bolts were tight. There was no way I sucked a wire into that thing unless it was already loose somewhere inside. The wrongful self serving accusation is incorrect and uncalled for.

Will you ship the engine back please? I will rebuild the thing with better parts and buy something with a little more quality control or maybe just a little more chrome on the cylinder next time around. A little earlier today I was trying to decide between a dune runner or an xb for my next car, but now it is between a Baja or a Losi. This one apparently needs a tow onto the gun range.

Phil
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Sorry to hear that....

That's just some crap luck.

Are you going to rebuild it or just replace it?
 
Phil when i first got my mt i had some issues with the diff. Cups breaking.so after disassembling the diffs. Front and rear i found that there were missing shimm washers and this was causing my problems.so i called redcat and i spoke with andy also.let me tell u phil he accused me of disassembling the diffs. And loosing the shimms.i explained to him i noticed the missing parts because the diagram had them on there and didnt c them in both my diffs.long story short i had to purchase new diff parts just for those washers.andy explained to me it was my fault and the factory would never leave them out.I call bs on that.so it seems once they sell u the r/c ur on ur own.if i were u put a $139 esp head kit on and be.done with it ...
 
Whilst contemplating the unholy demise of my communist MT (belt fed 1919A4/tannerite chaser/resounding reddawn "WOLVERINES!" battlecry), I remembered a post on here which I read. The post basically cautioned someone about mig welding an exhaust pipe because a stray piece of wire can get sucked back into the combustion chamber in a 2 cycle engine through the exhaust port. There is no way it got into the carb on my watch. I think that must have been what happened, some hanging chad mig wire in the muffler flange gave way and entered on decceleration.

Thanks IDLY666 for your post...that type of accusation was pretty offensive to me. It is good to know it isn't just me. The ESP head kit is a better option than spending $200 on another factory motor.

I apologize to all of you guys, (who have had better luck running these cars), for being so redcat negative. Those cars look like a lot of fun and actually look to be pretty beefy for the money. I have a box full of spark plugs, 3 solenoids, two clutch kits, 1 superbee, one cpi pipe, new air filter, velocity stack, extra basher body, everything but a partridge in a pear tree. Glad i held off on my order at DDM yesterday! i had plans for that MT. It was my best paint job ever so far!

But reddog Andy's response makes me not want to give Redcat anymore business.

Not sure what I am going to do with the MT really. Probably put the MT crap back in the box and run my baja 5b Flux for now.

I'll post the video if the wolverine in me wins out :) I need to blow a beaver dam and maybe I will use that sucker on a suicide mission to deliver the charge.

Cheers!
 
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I take it back this is a suitable solution. My redcat will live to bash another day. I may even have an xb back on the list in the near future.

I just got this from Andy at Redcat and wanted everyone to know. I sent a pleasant thank you and told them I was again looking at an xb for my next car.

Not sure how I am going to take care of the beaver dam. dam.

Hello,

Ok I understand what you are saying and yes I'm sure that could happen with Mig welding wire. The wire that I pulled out did not look like welding wire it is more like paper clip wire. I did see the bolt on the muffler it is worn down. I do have some parts here in the shop that I can use to get your engine running again. Like I said before the most common problem that causes issues with the gas engines is a loose carb. Be sure to always check the carb bolts before each tank and you can eliminate allot of hassle. I will get back to you soon I am going to install another cylinder head and piston and clean out the crank case. I test run all engines that I rebuild to make sure they are good. There is no charge for anything I will get back to you soon ok.....

Thank you,

Andy

Merry Christmas to All.

Thanks to Redcat.
 
update

i put the engine I got back from the redcat repair facility. It runs good.

Seeing the compression in this one and the way the rope pulls. I think the other engine was dead on arrival. This one has all kinds of compression. The first one was a lot less effort to pull. Now that I know what a good one feels like the other didn't have the right compression from the start.

Breaking in the new one and keeping my fingers crossed but this engine runs a lot better from the get go.

Phil
 
Sweet...four hours of idle time on the engine. Put in venom 5000 miliamp battery new fuel lines and a filter. (still need to install super bee). But took her out for a spin and it ran great! fast too just with the stock motor. I still have a a new throttle servo to install and steering servos too. :)

I am running now.

Thanks for the tips about running the car.

Phil.

I have an xb that just arrived and almost has three tanks of fule through it.

looking forward to seeing the performance on the lighter one.
 
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