If your just bashing , would you want to spend $2000 on a car ?First off thanks for the response. I didn't see the Hormanns on the ddm website, guess I'll have to dig deeper. As for a particular model, I don't know what the delineating factors are yet. My only familiarity comes from watching rcracingtv but they look like winners. Like I said we currently have a hand full of guys bashing around with 5b/t and I’m looking for something different. I don’t know that I need (or want from a maintenance standpoint) a full-fledged race buggy but at least something more geared to the track.