Thanks for the ideas guys!! Critical, very nice and utilizing the plates is a great idea. I agree with your ideas for alternate stands and I can attest that I’ve used a couple stools, a/v carts, keyboard stands and they are all useable when your working from the top, but as. Crucial stated if your doing any under body work it’s much more difficult. The biggest hurdle I think were all alluding tonis the cost of the axis stand. Your right, it’s almost the cost of another ride but damn they are nice, they are very nice and now I need a 5ive-b plate for that project, but one at a time. If you ever want to splurge and go on a champagne bender, get an axis. I use one stand for all my plates. If I ever hit it big I’m going to add another stand lol.