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With this 80 installed I will be venturing for thicker oil as well..she's still a bit too soft for my liking, too bad the threads on the shafts weren't able to take both vavles. I am running ddms chrome springs which are stiffer than my stock kv5tt springs. I'm not 100% sure if they are the same spring rate as the stock kv5s. Another fellow brapper with a kv5tt, also on the forum suggested 250cst rear, 150cst up front, my kit came with 2x bottles of 150 and is like water.